Our Readers Speak: Students hurting in wake of suicides

2014-03-12T00:00:00Z 2014-03-12T00:49:58Z Our Readers Speak: Students hurting in wake of suicides Montana Standard
March 12, 2014 12:00 am

Students are hurting

Karen Sullivan’s letter to the editor on March 9 saying the school district is doing something to help the “students” is very misleading. Mr. Rosston is very good and very helpful. But, as Ms. Sullivan clearly pointed out, he was brought in to help the “staff at the Butte School District” and the parents.

Not once did she mention any help going directly to the students. The students need to get their grief and sadness out by talking. They cannot keep it bottled up. If talking to each other can prevent one suicide, then why not try it? That is what my letter was about.

Many students have asked if they could have group discussions in school and were told no. Why? The students feel like they are being ignored. They are the ones that are hurting, that are grieving. I understand that the staff and the parents need help noticing the signs of suicide and trying to prevent it and the school district is helping them. But these teens need help as well.

— Kathy Rowe, 110 W. Park St., Butte

Copyright 2015 Montana Standard. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

(9) Comments

  1. Silverhio
    Report Abuse
    Silverhio - March 14, 2014 5:01 am
    Publicity for suicides? Yes, sincerely hope Butte residents, parents and responsible parties will get the point that without a real clean up, real action levels for metals, we will be reading about these tragedies for the rest of our lives here in Butte. Butte tough doesn't mean being superman in the face of huge pollution as well as isolation.
  2. constitutionalist
    Report Abuse
    constitutionalist - March 13, 2014 6:35 pm
    It's outrageous that because no one said EXACTLY what I said, then it doesn't exist.
    ..
    ..
    These kids are not victims at all.
    ..
    ..
    They may be sick or just don't know how to control their hormones.
    ..
    ..
    Yet it seems that all this public attention cannot be good for grieving or suicidal kids that may kill themselves or try to for attention in the future.
    ..
    ..
    How this is handled I think is very important.
    ..
    ..
    But no. The kids aren't bad. Their act was bad.
    ..
    ..
    And so why make all this bring recognition to those that may feel ignored and want to bring themselves to peoples attention by one last act?
    ..
    ..
    These kids should get to see counselors if they choose.
    ..
    ..
    These kids should know there is help.
    ..
    ..
    And these kids should know there will not be a lot of publicity for suicides.
  3. butteful59701
    Report Abuse
    butteful59701 - March 13, 2014 11:03 am
    I don’t think anyone mentioned HONORING anyone. And last time I checked, depression is a form of mental illness which can be caused from hormones, brain chemistry, biological differences, inherited traits or even life events. I’m not a doctor, but I really doubt anyone has control of being depressed. Control over dealing with it? YES. Which is why parents are concerned and wanting help for these children. Kids need to learn how to deal with it.
  4. constitutionalist
    Report Abuse
    constitutionalist - March 13, 2014 9:40 am
    @butteful59701

    You cannot be a victim of your psychology.
    ..
    ..
    These kids have problems.
    ..
    ..
    Good kids though they may be, they acted against themselves so they cannot be victims.
    ..
    ..
    Victims are people who suffer from another's hand.
    *Rape VICTIMS
    *Murder VICTIMS
    *Theft VICTIMS
    *Scam VICTIMS
    ..
    ..
    You can't punch yourself and say you are an assault victim.
    ..
    ..
    You can't throw your own things away and say you are a theft victim.
    ..
    ..
    These kids are smarter than people give them credit for.
    ..
    ..
    This isn't about being against talking about suicide or letting these kids talk out their feelings.
    ..
    ..
    This is about language putting these kids in a place where they aren't at fault for their actions. Because they are "victims" by their own hand...SOMEHOW!
    ..
    ..
    These kids need to know that there is NOTHING honorable about suicide. Nothing glamorous.
    ..
    ..
    It's not about being a victim.
    ..
    ..
    It's about finding help or giving help to troubled people peers or not.
  5. butteful59701
    Report Abuse
    butteful59701 - March 13, 2014 9:14 am
    How can you not call these children victims? They are victims of depression who obviously couldn’t or didn’t know how to deal with it anymore. We are not praising these kids nor celebrating for what they have done. We want to prevent this from happening again. We need to inform and talk about Suicide & Depression with these children. These kids need to understand they are not the only ones out there going through the same thing and life will get better. And if open group discussions is what it takes, like Kathy Rowe suggested, so be it. Why not?

  6. constitutionalist
    Report Abuse
    constitutionalist - March 12, 2014 7:39 pm
    They are going to create more "victims" by making these kids celebrities and going on about them.
  7. crazedwalker
    Report Abuse
    crazedwalker - March 12, 2014 6:50 pm
    7) Your comment is in really poor taste.

    In other words.....GO AWAY....BACK TO THE HOLE YOU EMERGED FROM!!
  8. Silverhio
    Report Abuse
    Silverhio - March 12, 2014 10:02 am
    This communication makes the point, again, about the lack of communications with the school district. We're talking about this vital issue through communications to the paper? No people-to-people. This affects the private school community as well. What are the schools afraid of? That if we talk about suicide with youth leading the way, that somehow what bad things will come of it? Communication is the start of healing. Acceptance of reality brings sanity, and sometimes actions for positive changes. Lot of repression going on.
  9. constitutionalist
    Report Abuse
    constitutionalist - March 12, 2014 9:45 am
    I say we people should stop calling these kids victims them.
    ..
    ..
    I think there should be dis-honor attached to these actions.
    ..
    ..
    Though the people were probably good people. The actions must be disdained.

Civil Dialogue

We provide this community forum for readers to exchange ideas and opinions on the news of the day. Passionate views, pointed criticism and critical thinking are welcome. Name-calling, crude language and personal abuse are not welcome. Moderators will monitor comments with an eye toward maintaining a high level of civility in this forum. Our comment policy explains the rules of the road for registered commenters. If you receive an error after submitting a comment, please contact us at editor@mtstandard.com.

If your comment was removed or isn't appearing online, perhaps:

  1. You called someone an idiot, a racist, a dope, a moron, etc. Please, no name-calling or profanity (or veiled profanity -- #$%^&*).
  2. You rambled, failed to stay on topic or exhibited troll-like behavior intended to hijack the discussion at hand.
  3. YOU SHOUTED YOUR COMMENT IN ALL CAPS. This is hard to read and annoys readers.
  4. You have issues with a business. Have a bad meal? Feel you were overcharged at the store? New car is a lemon? Contact the business directly with your customer service concerns.
  5. You included an e-mail address or phone number, pretended to be someone you aren't or offered a comment that makes no sense.
  6. You accused someone of a crime or assigned guilt or punishment to someone suspected of a crime.
  7. Your comment is in really poor taste.
Add Comment
You must Login to comment.

Click here to get an account it's free and quick

mothersdaypromo-tile

Follow the Montana Standard

Montana Videos

The 4:06 – trending topics and hot headlines

Missoulian digital director Emily Foster presents the latest news you need to know about today's headlines …

Montana Prehistory Minute: Early Native Americans hunted enormous game

Montana Prehistory Minute: Early Native Americans hunted enormous game

Museum of the Rockies curator of paleontology Jack Horner talks about the woolly mammoths th…

The 4:06 – trending topics and hot headlines

The 4:06 – trending topics and hot headlines

Missoulian digital director Emily Foster presents the latest news you need to know about tod…

Video: Gorilla attack at Omaha zoo

Video: Gorilla attack at Omaha zoo

A video showing a silverback gorilla cracking a glass window at Omaha's Henry Doorly Zoo and…

Featured Offers & Deals

Great Butte Businesses

Vote now! Question of the Week

Loading…

A Senate committee on Friday amended the Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks’ licensing bill to include a piece of legislation that would allow mentored hunting for 10- to 17-year-olds who have not completed a hunter safety course. Do you agree with this amendment?

View Results